This conversation occurred throughout yesterday and today, please pray for these people and for me, I tried to be calm and make my case, but afterwards, I got quite irritated with some of these posts: This guy is an apostate by the way, pray for both him and his relative as well on the off chance that he is actually "railing" against homosexuals. There were others like this, at one point the mod asked if the guy could just ask his relative why he cared so much and the guy replied: "No, haven't. Because as someone said on here, the person's belief is so ingrained that no amount of discussion would change their belief on the subject in any way." It's remarkable the things these people believe and/or tell themselves about us. I know it shouldn't be any surprised, we've seen plenty of other examples of how crazy people are becoming but still...