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  1. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Men and women complete each other – there's no other option, Pope says
    By Elise Harris
    http://www.ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=11987

    Vatican City, Apr 22, 2015 / 12:39 pm (EWTN News/CNA
    Pope Francis said Wednesday that marriage is a vocation all believers are called to defend, specifically in terms of the complementarity of the union between a man and a woman.

    later in article...

    Rather than being lived as a reciprocal union, marriage today has been marred by an “epidemic of distrust, of skepticism and even of hostility,” he said.

    At the same time, the procreative aspect of marriage has been “devalued, which is always a great loss for everyone. How important it is to revalue marriage and the family!”

    When a stable and “fruitful” union between a man and a woman is lacking or underappreciated, it is the young who suffer most, Francis observed.
     
  2. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Fortnight 2015: Freedom to Bear Witness
    [​IMG]"Keeping the spirit of the Gospel means that Catholic institutions are to bear witness in love to the full truth about the human person by providing social, charitable, and educational services in a manner that fully reflects the God-given dignity of the human person." - Archbishop William E. Lori, Chairman, Ad Hoc Committee for Religious Liberty, on the "Freedom to Bear Witness". . .

    The Fortnight for Freedom: Freedom to Bear Witness will take place from June 21 to July 4, 2015, a time when our liturgical calendar celebrates a series of great martyrs who remained faithful in the face of persecution by political power—St. Thomas More and St. John Fisher, St. John the Baptist, SS. Peter and Paul, and the First Martyrs of the Church of Rome. The theme of this year's Fortnight will focus on the "freedom to bear witness" to the truth of the Gospel.

    http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/fortnight-for-freedom/index.cfm
     
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  3. 4unborn

    4unborn Angels

    Both same-sex marriages and same-sex civil unions enable homosexual acts.
     
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  4. miker

    miker Powers

    Here you go...

    http://www.crisismagazine.com/2015/pope-francis-prepares-shock-liberals-sex-marriage

    maybe I'm reading you wrong, but are you "accusing" the Holy Father of supporting same sex marriage. I typically don't like to reply in this manner, but I'm uncomfortable with what seems like an unfair and untrue characterization of the Pope.
     
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  5. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...c-Church-should-not-dismiss-gay-marriage.html
    Pope says Catholic Church should not dismiss gay marriage
    Pope Francissays the issue of gay marriage should be studied and not dismissed out-of-hand, a senior Roman Catholic cardinal has revealed.

    Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the outspoken archbishop of New York, said Pope Francis had told him: “Rather than quickly condemn them, let's just ask the questions as to why that has appealed to certain people."

    Archbishop Dolan stressed that the Pope had not shifted the Catholic Church’s position on same-sex unions.

    "It wasn't as if he came out and approved them,” he told the NBC television network in the US.

    But the Pope wanted senior Church leaders to “look into” the issue and to scrutinise the reasons why many countries have legalised same-sex marriages.

    In an interview last week with Corriere della Sera, a leading Italian daily, the Pope stressed that the Church continued to regard marriage as being a union between a man and a woman.

    But he did say that countries around the world were “normalising different arrangements of cohabitation” and that “we must consider different cases and evaluate each particular case.”

    The Vatican immediately tried to play down his remarks, saying that: "We should not try to read more into the Pope’s words than what has been stated in very general terms."

    Pope Francis has shown a softer, more inclusive stance on core issues of concern to the Catholic Church since being elected Pope on March 13 last year.

    Last July, when asked about homosexual priests, he said: “If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?”

    He added: “We shouldn't marginalise people for this. They must be integrated into society.”

    His comments did not fundamentally change the policy of the Catholic Church, which holds that while homosexual orientation is not in itself sinful, homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered”.

    But they signalled that Francis accepts that some priests are gay, and that it is acceptable as long as they adhere to their vow of celibacy, marking a more compassionate stance on the issue.

    The Pope’s attitude towards homosexuality has won him plaudits and earned him a place on the cover of The Advocate, a gay news magazine.

    Conservative Catholics, particularly in the United States, have been alarmed by some of his comments, but Archbishop Dolan played down the idea of any backlash by traditionalists.

    "I haven't sensed too much bristling among the conservatives," he said. "They honestly will say, 'His style is a little different and might periodically cause us a little angst.'

    "But in general they too seem to be rejoicing in what you might call the evangelical fervour, the good interest in the life of the Church."
     
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  6. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    Brothers and sisters - why would any of us depend on getting the truth about anything from secular or agenda-driven news sources?

    I'm very concerned that good Catholics will be swept away from the safety of the Church through the deceptive tactics of the enemy.

    Where Peter is, there is the Church! Abandon Peter, and abandon the Church.
     
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  7. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Is Cardinal Dolan a secular or agenda driven source? (Some would say yes.)
     
  8. miker

    miker Powers

    I'm doing the best I can to remain charitable in my comments here and this is the last time I will post on this thread as it's stealing my peace. I'm growing weary of what I perceive as these passive aggressive comments on the Pope. The last article posted is over a year ago from a UK tabloid. To equate comments made by The Pope or Cardinal Dolan as supportive or condoning of same sex marriage is not accurate. I'll leave it at that.,
     
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  9. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Even if the secular media were to quote Cardinal Dolan there is no guarantee that they would quote accurately. We are dealing with a lazy and manipulative press more interested in spin and propaganda than the truth.

    I do not trust the press because the vast majority of journalists have betrayed their true vocation in that they are called to be impartial and to seek the truth. There is no trustworthy newspaper out there, period!
     
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  10. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    It would be interesting to hear from those who choose to believe this article must be false ,

    1. What do you find offensive about it ?
    2. Why afraid to discuss ? Pope Francis has called you to ...
    ''This is important: to get to know people, listen, expand the circle of ideas. The world is crisscrossed by roads that come closer together and move apart, but the important thing is that they lead towards the Good.''
    Pope Francis
     
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  11. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    And what of Eugenio Scalfari ? The journalist chosen many times by Pope Francis ?
     
  12. little me

    little me Archangels

    Funny thing; when the Pope is quoted and says something Catholic he is FANTASTIC. When he is quoted and says something heretical - "well, the media is lying, that just CAN'T be true" is what I hear.
    Pope Francis continues to grant interviews to a man that supposedly continues to misquote him? No corrections, no retractions. Isn't the Pope actively participating in public scandal by continuing to be interviewed and quoted as saying heretical statements by Scalfari????
     
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  13. little me

    little me Archangels

    2284 Scandal is an attitude or behavior which leads another to do evil. the person who gives scandal becomes his neighbor's tempter. He damages virtue and integrity; he may even draw his brother into spiritual death. Scandal is a grave offense if by deed or omission another is deliberately led into a grave offense.

    NOTICE THE WORD "OMISSION" PEOPLE!!
     
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  14. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Without going into details , or judging , .... YES!!!
     
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  15. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Not one word is heretical...you are causing scandal by promoting lies.

    If there is one statement that is heretical then please state it. If not please stop. If you're mad at the Pope for his statements then please be truthful and state why. Not one word is against church doctrine and all his statements have been to help lead his flock towards God.

    Brother al
     
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  16. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    This priest is the Spiritual Director for the Population Research Council founded by Fr. Paul Marx. Please watch this prayerfully, carefully, and honestly and pay particular attention to his references to Catholic prophecy.

    http://gloria.tv/media/CG5Dyd1WWLg
     
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  17. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Are you saying if the Scalfari interviews are true , there is no problem?
     
  18. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    What I'm saying is that the media has poisoned our culture. It seems that many today make a hobby of parsing every "quoted" comment of our Holy Father. It feels to me like a game of "gotcha!" as if this were a political battle.

    I'm not afraid of discussion - but I'm concentrating on my particular mission. Every bit of attention I give to Church gossip is time stolen from what I'm called to do.
     
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  19. little me

    little me Archangels

    Eugenio Scalfari wrote that Pope Francis had told him that souls who do not go to heaven, that is achieve the Beatific Vision, are annihilated. Not a peep of denial, correction or clarification has come from Francis.

    Annihilated? This is 100% heresy.
     
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