Bless Msgr Pope. He has stuck his neck out. We live in the times written off in Chapter 13 of the Book of the Apocalypse. When the Woman with Child fless the Dragon and the dragons tail drags a thrid of the stars from heaven. A third of the laypeople, a third of the clergy fall down to hell. Where are these people like Fr Martin getting all this huge amount of money to travel all round the world? It is such an honur and blessing really to be chosen by God to live in these times. We are like soldiers specially chosen to fight at the very front lines. Our Parents and grandparents and forebears never had this huge gift. We will have the chance to offer our lives for the Faith. What a Huge Gift.
I was talking about Fr James Martin with a Jesuit across the street this morning. He studied with him in Syracuse and met him on several occasions. He described him as a , 'Pleasant, very reserved man'. I wonder if all Jesuits are as slippery as my neighbour? He knows perfectly well I regard Fr Martin as pretty well the devil incarnate yet will not commit an opinion either way. I suspect him of being an out an out Liberal, but do not know. Very slippery. But we had a nice discussion on heaven and hell and whether of not dogs gets to heaven; which I enjoyed. But you know I don't think I know this Jesuit much better than when I first met him in many ways. He certainly does know how to keep his opinions to himself. Hopefully the next Pope will disband the Jesuit Order. I have given up on them. I am sure there are a few good ones, but not enough of them to keep the Order going. Best without them. At least my Jesuit neighbout believes in heaven and hell, so I suppose that is something. You never know these days. We also discussed St Ignatious Loyola; a hero of mine. You just never, never know; especially with Jesuits.
Well, there's a very new article about the Jesuits on OnePeterFive, which seems relevant. In Defense of the Jesuit Order (Sort Of) Ken Foye November 8, 2018 https://onepeterfive.com/defense-jesuit/
Carol, I saw in the video you posted of the World Over that Donald Wuerl ( unsure about his title now) would not comment on Bishop Holley’s removal. I don’t see how anyone can fail to see a connection.
Father Martin is Pope Francis' John the Baptist. Announcing to us what the true motives are. Paving the way for the false church.
HH, Your welcome. Bishop Schneider did a very good job imho on that article, I think that it is worth everyone's time to read it. I like the way that he analyzed the terminology used in the final document of the Youth Synod. He highlighted the fact that the word grace was used seven times as one of the positive elements of the document and this reminded me of something that Pope Francis stated recently in regard to Our Lady and his analysis of the prayer 'Hail Mary', 'The angel Gabriel does not say to the Virgin that she is “intelligent, full of virtue,” but only that she is full of grace, remarks the head of the Catholic Church. “That is to say, full of beauty, of a free gift.” Beauty “is one of the human dimensions that we too often neglect” in faith, to focus only on truth or goodness. “We must find God in beauty,” he exhorted again.' https://aleteia.org/2018/10/10/pope-explains-hail-mary-prayer-in-book-interview/ I suppose that Pope Francis' above statement has continued to bother me. I don't believe that the term "full of grace" is meant to be substituted with "full of beauty". I found the following from EWTN which helps explain what is meant by "full of grace" which I found to be helpful and I wanted to share it with all of you, http://www.ewtn.com/v/experts/showmessage.asp?number=349095 . It states, "Mary was conceived without original sin and so was truly full of grace". I guess that I couldn't help but wonder if Pope Francis' statements on the prayer 'Hail Mary' is connected to the final document of the Youth Synod. I haven't read the document but I do wonder how it would read if every time we encounter the word "grace" we substitute the word "beauty" . *** I noticed that Edward Pentin tweeted the following article yesterday. Since I never heard of the new lay group, Better Church Governance (BCG), which is discussed in the article, I looked for more information about it and found the following from LifeSiteNews https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/catholic-lay-group-to-investigate-voting-cardinals-publish-results-before-n . This lay group, BCG, may not be what Archbishop Fulton Sheen was referring to when he stated the laity will save the Church but I am reminded of his quote nonetheless. Francis on the ropes Clerical sexual-abuse scandals strengthen the pope’s conservative critics Launched in optimism, Francis’s papacy is bogged down in infighting and scandals Nov 8th 2018 | VATICAN CITY AS AN FBI agent for 29 years, Philip Scala led the operation that jailed John Gotti of Cosa Nostra and raided an al-Qaeda bomb factory. Mr Scala, now a private investigator, took on Hells Angels, rioting prisoners and Russian mobsters. Next on his list? The cardinals of the Roman Catholic church. A new lay group, Better Church Governance (BCG), has hired Mr Scala to probe the lives of the 224 men who advise Pope Francis (including their sex lives, if any). His particular focus will be the 124 who, were the pontiff to die tomorrow, would elect his successor. Mr Scala’s team of up to ten investigators will publish their findings on a website, alongside carefully screened information from the public. Philip Nielsen, BCG’s executive director, hopes the website, dubbed the Red Hat Report after the scarlet zucchetti (skullcaps) worn by cardinals, will be online within a month. Though apparently well funded, the BCG is a tiny fragment of Christianity’s biggest church. Catholicism claims 1.3bn followers and wields vast, global influence. Its report would have seemed unthinkably disrespectful—almost sacrilegious—even a year ago. But in the Catholic world much that was once inconceivable is now transpiring. The Red Hat Report is a sign of how much many Catholics have come to mistrust their leaders and how far some will go to hold them accountable. The loss of confidence stems from an enduring scandal over the molestation, and sometimes rape, of children by priests. It is unstoppable, since most of the revelations concern wrongdoing years or even decades ago. And it is seemingly inexorable: after the first disclosures in Ireland in the 1990s, the scandal spread through western Europe and North America; it has since reached South America and eastern Europe to assail erstwhile bastions of the faith such as Poland and Chile. In the ten years to 2010, the Vatican sifted through around 3,000 cases dating back to the middle of the previous century. Increasingly, however, attention has shifted to the role of bishops in covering up for clerics, often by posting them to other dioceses where they continued to abuse minors. The BCG’s founding was inspired by the publication in August of a document in which Archbishop Carlo Viganò, a former papal nuncio (ambassador) in America, accused some of the church’s most powerful men of ignoring repeated warnings that Theodore McCarrick, a former cardinal, was a serial seducer of seminarians when he was archbishop of Newark. Archbishop Viganò said the previous pope, Benedict XVI, had imposed restrictions on Cardinal McCarrick, but that Pope Francis, despite knowing of the cardinal’s behaviour, eased them and made him a trusted adviser. He implied this was because the cardinal had helped Francis become pope in 2013. In an appeal unprecedented in modern times, he called on the pope, whom Catholics believe is chosen with God’s aid and whose pronouncements on some issues are infallible, to quit. Betrayal of the innocents (Please click on the following link to read the whole article, https://www.economist.com/internati...als-strengthen-the-popes-conservative-critics).
The author tries to make a case for not disbanding the Jesuit order. Why? So the likes of James Martin can continue to betray the memory of great martyrs of the past? How many young souls are expendable for the sake of the order's past glories? When Jesus said "If your right hand offends me, cut it off" He didn't add "unless it's a Jesuit hand".
Might want to keep an eye on that website from time to time.. I tried a lookup to see who the site is registered to and it returned nothing on several different internet domain lookups. https://betterchurchgovernance.org/
Carol, Thank you for this EWTN response on grace. The particular sentence of clarity is: The word at issue comes from the root "charis" which means grace (God's free gift) and in this text it appears as a perfect passive participle, which can be more literally rendered "who has been graced." Gabriel's greeting to Mary as "full of grace" does not refer to her motherhood, but rather to her as the Immaculate Conception. The participle references fullness (perfect) and also a gift bestowed in the past (passive). This is why the translation, highly favored is so misleading. Someone reading the passage using such an inadequate translation can easily but wrongly conclude that Mary's title refers to God's Will for her to be the mother of His Son and her subsequent surrender. Thank you Father Echert! Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Conception!
Yes he is a stalking horse. stalk·ing horse /ˈstôkiNG ˌhôrs/ noun 1. a false pretext concealing someone's real intentions: "you have used me simply as a stalking horse for some of your more outrageous views" 2. a screen traditionally made in the shape of a horse behind which a hunter can stay concealed when stalking prey.
Pope St John Paul the Great was a hairsbreath away from disbanding them on several occasions. Over Liberation Theology for instance. But he was disuaded at the last minute. The Jesuits back then where a hundred times better than they are now even though they were rotten to the core; so there is a hundred times more reasons for getting rid of them now. Of course with such a huge Order there are off course good priests, certainly some saints. After disbanding them it might be possible to refloat it with a very few good ones after having let it lie dead a few years. But they certainly have to get stopped. These are, for instance the folks who gave us Pope Francis. That is reason enough in itself to get rid of them. It is not the first time this Order wil lhave been disbanded and I am sure it will not be the last. There are other orders that need to go too. The Dominicans have also falled to Darkness for instance, there are many others. Many nuns orders need to go too, especially in Europe and the USA. The axe needs to be taken to the roots big time.
You can read some more about them in this report in this National Catholic Register report: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/the-red-hat-report-should-laypeople-investigate-cardinals Apparently, some of them have to remain anonymous because they work for Catholic institutions and revealing their names would subject them to the same axe of mercy which fell on faithful Catholics who came out in support of the Dubia. Some very sanctimonious comments in that NCR report conveniently ignore the St. Gallen Mafia when talking about automatic excommunication. And given the apparent link between the Jesuits, Cardinal Maradiaga and Podesta's "Catholic Spring" - an outfit whose agenda and language was almost identical to what is currently coming from the Vatican - perhaps the Church needs an organisation of lay Catholics with the wherewithal to investigate and expose wolves posing as shepherds. There's a collection at next Sunday's Mass in our diocese to cover the Church's share of the cost of the Pope's visit to the World Meeting of Families. Presumably, that collection will also cover costs of invited speakers like Fr. James Martin, Cardinals Farrell, Cupich, Maradiaga, et al. They're short €5 million, hence next Sunday's collection. Think I'll give that collection a miss and donate the money to the Better Church Governance outfit which has a Gofundme account. I can't link to the Gofundme page but there's a link in the NCR report.
I expect that there are pockets of faithful Jesuits in some parts of the world. Trouble is that they aren't the ones running the show, and that fruitcake Fr. Sosa is an elected Superior General so he represents what a majority of Jesuits believe. Best to shut it down altogether. Any of them worth keeping can be put into parishes or schools where they can teach poor children which would be something of a novelty for the elitist Jesuits. We can hope that the Francis papacy has spared us ever again being inflicted with a Jesuit pope. Of course, that depends on whether the College of Cardinals have retained some of their sanity by the next Conclave. Surely they wouldn't be crazy enough to repeat the same mistake expecting a different outcome? Then again, considering how many of them have been appointed by Pope Francis, I wouldn't rule it out. Shutting down the Jesuits would send a message to the rest that their days of spreading apostasy are over. I can't think of a single religious order doing more harm to the Church than the Jesuits. The author of that piece on 1Peter5 recommended young men with a vocation to consider joining the Jesuits. I wonder would he give the same advice to his own son. Given that a parent's first instinct is to protect his child from evil influences, I doubt it very much. While not all female religious orders have sunk as low as the Jesuits, a few of them could also benefit from a root and branch review. I think Bishop McElroy saved some of them from the chopping block during Pope Benedict's time. Signs on he's a big favourite of Pope Francis.
Today's Gospel reading is this: Gospel Jn 2:13-22 Since the Passover of the Jews was near, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. He found in the temple area those who sold oxen, sheep, and doves, as well as the money-changers seated there. He made a whip out of cords and drove them all out of the temple area, with the sheep and oxen, and spilled the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables, and to those who sold doves he said, "Take these out of here, and stop making my Father's house a marketplace." His disciples recalled the words of Scripture, Zeal for your house will consume me. At this the Jews answered and said to him, "What sign can you show us for doing this?" Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up." The Jews said, "This temple has been under construction for forty-six years, and you will raise it up in three days?" But he was speaking about the temple of his Body. Therefore, when he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they came to believe the Scripture and the word Jesus had spoken. +++++++++++++++ I think this is the essential Gospel for these days. The priestly vocation is only about saving souls. Jesus will overturn the money tables and more in His perfect timing. May all priests who have proclaimed today's Gospel take it to heart that Jesus is talking to them...."stop making my Father's house a marketplace."
A really good read Dolours thank you. From the article it is pointed out that the intention of such a report is to influence the next conclave because it is specifically intended that this report be published before it. What I find interesting about this being pointed out is that the proposed intent is not to influence it in a manner such as secular civil forces as are quoted in the article who would push to see their man (and secular civil ideals) elected to the Chair of Peter. Not that they wish to push their desire upon the hierarchy of the church thus influencing its next election of a Pope but in essence to do exactly the opposite by exposing those who's agenda is anything but in line with Church teaching and tradition. It seems to me that this is gas lighting (yet again) by those who oppose transparency and approve of clericalism so long as it is in their interests. Many of the comments after that article seem to agree with your take on it. " In an Oct. 1 posting on Twitter, canon lawyer Kurt Martens of The Catholic University of America asked whether the group could risk excommunication by preparing its report for the next conclave. He cited Article 80 of Universi Dominici Gregis (The Vacancy of the Apostolic See and the Election of the Roman Pontiff), St. John Paul II’s 1996 apostolic constitution that prohibits “all possible forms of interference, opposition and suggestion whereby secular authorities of whatever order and degree, or any individual or group, might attempt to exercise influence on the election of the pope.” Martens said in an interview with the Register that he posed the question because early news reports said the group wanted to be ready for the next conclave and quoted a spokesman as saying that if more information had been available, Pope Francis might never have been elected. “You put all those things together, and it looks as if they’re trying to influence the conclave, and they’re not happy with the current pope,” he said. “That is forbidden under Article 80 of the apostolic constitution.” The origins of such prohibitions, Martens said, go back to civil powers trying to interfere in conclaves, but they have been expanded to include all kinds of pressure groups. “The point is there is a reason for all those rules when a pope is elected — that the cardinals are absolutely free from outside interference,” he said. “It’s fine to put information together, but you’re walking a very thin line because it could easily be seen as a way to attempt to influence the outcome.”"
Well if this is true it might make you a little nervous. But so interesting that Archbishop Cupich is up there. If Cupich becomes Pope it will be like winning the lottery: Burke or Sarah would be just as sweet. https://www.thetoptens.com/papabile-pope-be-after-pope-francis/
An excellent 4 minute synopsis that I endorse 100%. Huge numbers are going to leave the church over the abuse crisis and the refusal of the present leadership to be transparent.
If Cardinal Tagle weren't at the top of that list, I wouldn't have given it a second thought. I think it possible they will settle for him as some kind of compromise. God help us. Incidentally, I like what I've seen (not a whole lot) of the Dominicans. And Fr. Weinendy is a Dominican. If you're ever in Dublin city centre on a Friday night, try to get to the Holy Hour in the Dominican church and stay for Compline afterwards. It's a real treat. The 1st Commandment isn't ignored there.
