Venezuela

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  1. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    This is disgusting...

    Church Attacked With Tear Gas Amid Unrest in Venezuela
    News: World News | https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/church-attacked-with-tear-gas-amid-unrest-in-venezuela
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    Soldiers try to enter church, subject Mass attendees to tear gas at parish in San Cristóbal diocese

    SAN CRISTOBAL, Venezuela (ChurchMilitant.com) - In the midst of political turmoil in Venezuela, dozens of soldiers allegedly tried to force their way into a Catholic church.

    The incident took place on the afternoon of May 1, according to Bp. Mario del Valle Moronta Rodriguez of the diocese of San Cristóbal.

    It was near the end of Mass at Our Lady of Fatima Church in Barrio Sucre. Two soldiers from the Bolivarian National Guard (Guardia Nacional Bolivariana or GNB) — a branch of the Venezuelan armed forces — entered the church on their motorcycles.

    Based on Bp. Moronta's account, the pastor at Our Lady of Fatima came out of the rectory and tried to stop the men. Soon, some 40 soldiers from the National Guard arrived, demanding entrance into the church.

    "The pastor, Fr. Jairo Clavijo, stopped them," the bishop wrote, "and after them a general arrived by the last name of Ochoa who started arguing with the pastor, in hardly respectful terms."

    What happened next, according to Bp. Moronta, is that "the GNB threw tear gas canisters inside the church."

    A large number of elderly people were present in the church and suffered due to the tear gas. Bishop Moronta noted that "a nun fainted" in the church amid the chaos.

    Bishop Moronta opined, "This incident is extremely serious and is an attack on the Catholic Church."

    The bishop put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the National Guard general who was involved in the incident. He stated, "I hold General Ochoa and the military authorities in the region responsible for this vile event that speaks to the will of the attackers who do not respect human dignity nor fear God."

    This incident comes amid several months of political turmoil in Venezuela. Since January, there has been infighting between socialist President Nicolás Maduro and opposition leader Juan Guaidó. Many Venezuelans protested Maduro's inauguration, with some claiming the election was rigged.

    Guaidó claims to be the acting president; essentially, he argues that his role as head of Venezuela's national legislature makes him the default leader when there is no fairly elected president.

    In the elections last year, many opposition candidates reportedly were banned from running, thrown in jail or forced to flee the country.

    Food shortages and severe economic hardship have contributed to widespread dissatisfaction with the socialist government headed by Maduro (and previously headed by his mentor, the late Hugo Chávez). Venezuelans have suffered through deficient medical care, hyperinflation and power cuts. Rampant corruption has also been cited as a concern.

    Many point to Venezuela's economic reliance on oil as a contributing factor to the hardships. Oil accounts for almost all of Venezuela's exports, meaning a drop in oil prices can be devastating for the country's economy.

    Amid these hardships, millions of Venezuelans have fled the country in recent years.

    As protests, riots and clashes continue, countries around the world are taking sides on the strife in Venezuela. The United States and many other countries are backing Guaidó's claim as de facto president. On the other hand, Russia and Cuba are supporting Maduro's claim to a second term.

    Maduro has alleged that U.S. President Donald Trump is siding with the opposition because of potential economic benefits from Venezuela's oil exports.

    Recently, the Trump administration has hinted at the possibility of using military force against Maduro if he refuses to resign. Some sources claim that the idea of putting troops on the ground in Venezuela has been discussed at the White House as early as August 2017.

    Earlier this week, Guaidó called on members of the Venezuelan armed forces to switch over to his side of the months-long quarrel.

    The Catholic bishops of Venezuela have sided against Maduro's regime, with some bishops taking part in opposition marches.

    In the city of Maturin back in January, some 700 anti-Maduro protesters were trapped inside the local cathedral for several hours.​
     
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  2. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    The above story was also reported by CNA,

    Venezuelan National Guard attacks church during Mass
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    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/venezuelan-national-guard-attacks-church-during-mass-89610

    San Cristobal, Venezuela, May 2, 2019 / 04:01 pm (CNA).- Members of the Venezuelan National Guard attacked a Catholic church in San Cristobal Wednesday, amid nationwide protests against the government of president Nicolas Maduro.

    Bishop Mario del Valle Moronta Rodriguez of San Cristóbal de Venezuela said May 1 that “this afternoon a horde of Bolivarian National Guardsmen attacked Our Lady of Fatima church in Barrio Sucre of San Cristóbal.”

    A Mass was ending, he said, “when two (members of) the GNB entered the church on a motorcycle.”

    Bishop Moronta said that “the pastor came down from the rectory in order to stop them,” but “in the attempt to dialogue, a horde of 40 GNB arrived trying to enter.”

    “The pastor, Fr. Jairo Clavijo, stopped them, and after them a general arrived by the last name of Ochoa who started arguing with the pastor, in hardly respectful terms.”

    “Not content with the outrage, the GNB threw tear gas canisters inside the church,” he complained.

    The Bishop of San Cristóbal said, “they were able to evacuate the sacred precinct where there were a good number of faithful, including quite a few elderly people. A nun fainted.”

    For Bishop Moronta “this incident is extremely serious and is an attack on the Catholic Church.”

    “I blame the aforementioned General Ochoa as well as the military authorities in the region for this despicable incident which by itself speaks of the intentionality of the attackers who don't have the least respect for human dignity and don't even show any fear of God.”

    The Venezuelan prelate said the Diocese of San Cristóbal “will take preventive measures and appropriate actions in this case.”

    “As a bishop and a pastor I express my complete solidarity with the pastor, Fr. Jairo Clavijo, and the entire congregation of Our Lady of Fatima, whom I accompany with my prayers and the actions we will put forward.”

    The clash was one of many that took place across Venezuela April 30-May 1 after opposition leader Juan Guaidó urged protests against Maduro.

    Guaidó, head of the opposition-controlled legislature, the National Assembly, declared himself interim president in January and has been recognized by a number of Western governments, but has been largely unable to secure the support of Venezuela's military.

    Both supportors and opponents of Maduro have been on the streets in Venezuelan cities since Guaidó's call on Tuesday. The military responded to opponents in violent clashes, firing tear gas, and by arresting peaceful demonstrators.

    Maduro said he had stopped an “attempted coup.”

    Guaidó has called for continuing protests, and announced a series of strikes beginning May 2.

    Under Maduro's socialist administration, Venezuela has been marred by violence and social upheaval, with severe shortages and hyperinflation leading 3 million to emigrate.​
     
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  3. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Venezuela cardinal calls pro-Maduro violence amid protests ‘immoral’
    In Church in the Americas
    Inés San Martín
    May 4, 2019 | ROME BUREAU CHIEF | https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-a...ls-pro-maduro-violence-amid-protests-immoral/
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    Venezuelan residents protest against Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's government in Medellin, Colombia, May 1, 2019. While protests against Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro raged across the country, National Guard forces loyal to the embattled head of state launched tear gas at churchgoers attending Mass at a local parish. (Credit: CNS photo/David Estrada, Reuters.)

    Cardinal Jorge Urosa told Crux that "the ongoing repression is immoral."

    ROME - Cardinal Jorge Urosa, former Archbishop of Caracas, Venezuela, says the local bishops strongly condemn what he called the “immoral” repression perpetrated by the government of President Nicolas Maduro, which, according to the United Nations, has seen at least five people killed in the past few days, three of them minors.

    “The bishops maintain our position to call for peaceful and democratic solutions,” Urosa told Crux. “We consider that the ongoing repression is immoral, as is the fact that the current political leaders want to remain in power despite the heartache, pain, and economic and structural disaster that Venezuela is currently in.”

    “We maintain our unity, our closeness and accompaniment with the people of Venezuela,” he said.

    The bishops of Venezuela gathered April 29 to May 1 in what was supposed to be a general assembly, although the prelates ended up working in small groups as only 26 could attend. According to Urosa, due to the ongoing crisis and revolt, many couldn’t travel to Caracas.

    Those tensions reached another peak this week when Juan Guaido, the president of the National Assembly who was sworn in as interim president in January, attempted to supplant Maduro, who refuses to resign his post.

    On Tuesday, Guaido led a civil revolt, calling for the army to swap sides and support him instead of the successor to Hugo Chavez.

    According to Urosa, the cardinals also maintain their political independence and autonomy, as well as “perfect alignment with Pope Francis and the Holy See.”

    In a statement released on Friday, the Venezuelan bishops’ Commission for Justice and Peace said human rights are “inviolable” and that crimes committed by government forces during peaceful rallies cannot be “justified as due obedience.”

    RELATED: Church in Latin America faces crises from without and within

    Referring to the rallies that took place April 30 to May 2, the commission also condemned abuses of “freedom of the press, as 12 media workers were victims of diverse forms of violence.”

    Five journalists were wounded, a news station was ransacked and at least three TV news stations taken off the air for reporting on the protests.

    Their statement coincided with the UN-sponsored International Press Freedom Day, marked on Friday. Pope Francis was among the many international leaders who spoke up in favor of journalists being allowed to do their jobs, going to Twitter to share his message to his close to 50 million followers.

    “We need a journalism that is free, at the service of truth, goodness, and justice; a journalism that helps build a culture of encounter. #DefendMediaFreedom” Francis tweeted.

    In their statement, the Venezuelan bishops also said that violence by the military and Maduro’s supporters is “contrary to the obligations of respect and guarantees of human rights contemplated in the Venezuelan constitution,” and that violations of human dignity also violate international treaties the country has signed.

    The commission specifically condemned a violent attack on the Church of Our Lady of Fatima in San Cristobal, Venezuela, where Maduro supporters on motorcycles interrupted a Mass earlier in the week.

    The bishops called on the military and the pro-Maduro militias to respect private property and the rights of others, while calling on them to put an end to what they called the “criminal, lethal use of force,” to dismantle barriers, and urging authorities to authorize the immediate release of 300 people who were detained during the rallies.

    As they have done in the past, the bishops said that such crimes should not have a statute of limitations.

    In his comments to Crux, Urosa said that actions being taken by the opposition, including Guaido, are in line with exercising “internal pressure” to force the government to resign, allowing the National Assembly to call elections.

    “These actions are also meant to garner the support of the international community, including the Organization of American States and the government of the United States, so that they exercise pressure over the government,” Urosa said.
     
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  4. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    HUMANUM GENUS
    ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII Condemning Freemasonry: http://w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xi...nts/hf_l-xiii_enc_18840420_humanum-genus.html

    Juan Guaido, the Western-backed Freemason stooge/self-proclaimed President of Venezuela leading the violent coup attempt against the legitimate authorities in Venezuela:


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    Tell me, Carol, have the Catholic bishops in Venezuela condemned Guaido and the Western-backed violent coup against Venezuela? If not, they are playing politics just like certain Catholic and Orthodox bishops played politics during the Ukrainian Maidan.
     

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  5. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    I continue to agree with Pat Buchanan.

    Let Venezuela Decide Its Own Destiny
    By PATRICK J. BUCHANANMay 3, 2019, 12:01 AM
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    “Who would be free themselves must strike the blow…

    “By their right arms the conquest must be wrought.”

    So wrote Lord Byron of Greece’s war of independence against the Turks, though the famed British poet would ignore his own counsel and die just days after arriving in Greece to join the struggle.

    Yet Byron’s advice is the wise course for the United States and for the people of Venezuela who seek to free their country from the grip of the incompetent and dictatorial regime of Nicolás Maduro.

    Let the Venezuelans decide their own destiny, as did we.

    As of today, Caracas seems to be in something of a standoff.

    Opposition leader Juan Guaido, recognized by the U.S. and 50 other nations as president, has failed to persuade the army to abandon Maduro.

    Yet he can still muster larger crowds in the streets of Caracas than Maduro can call out to stand by his regime.


    Tuesday and Wednesday, Guaido announced that the regime’s final hour was at hand. But by midweek, the army’s leaders, including the minister of defense, still stood with Maduro.

    Guaido’s opportunity seems to have passed by, at least for the moment. Maduro remains in power, though his generals, weighing the odds, have apparently been negotiating in secret with Guaido.

    The Trump administration has backed Guaido, only to see him fail twice at taking power.

    The White House backed the plan in February to breach Venezuela’s borders with truckloads of food and medicine, counting on the army not to use force to block the trucks.

    Vice President Mike Pence traveled to the border.

    But Guaido and the Americans miscalculated. The army stood by Maduro. The trucks were kept out.

    This week, when Guaido called out the crowds again to bring the strongman down, the White House went all in. President Donald Trump, Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and John Bolton all tweeted support for the uprising.

    But by Thursday, it was again clear that no matter what Washington had been told and anticipated, the army remained loyal to Maduro.

    Frustrated, exasperated, appearing at once bellicose and impotent, Washington has now begun to bluster about military intervention.

    “All options are on the table,” says Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Joseph Dunford. Presumably that includes the 82nd Airborne.

    “While a peaceful solution is desirable, military action is possible,” said Pompeo. “If that’s what required, that’s what the United States will do.”

    “All options are open,” says Bolton. “We want a peaceful transfer of power. But we are not going to see Guaido mistreated by this regime.”

    Clearly, Juan Guaido is our man in Caracas.

    Bolton also had strong words for Vladimir Putin: “This is our hemisphere. It’s not where the Russians should be interfering. This was a mistake on their part.”

    “The brutal repression of the Venezuelan people must end, and it must end soon,” said Trump. “People are starving. They have no food; they have no water. And this was once one of the wealthiest countries in the world.”

    Yet Trump is reportedly reluctant to intervene. Let us hope that his anti-interventionist impulses guide his decisions. Venezuela’s future is not ours to decide.

    This civil conflict is not our war. We have not been attacked. Not only is there no justification for U.S. military intervention, but any arrival of American troops on Venezuelan soil could turn into yet another 21st-century strategic debacle.

    There could again be Americans killing and dying in a country where no vital interest was imperiled, no matter how obnoxious the regime.

    There is no Tiananmen Square slaughter, no massive human rights violations going on in Venezuela to justify military intervention. Indeed, there appears to be a conscious effort on the part of Maduro to minimize casualties and bloodshed, and the consequences they could bring.

    Troops are not firing indiscriminately on protesters, though rock throwers in the streets are provoking the soldiers. Planeloads of Russian or Cuban troops are not pouring into the country.

    U.S. intervention in a nation of 30 million people, with an army of scores of thousands of troops, would enable Maduro to cast himself in the role of martyr of Yankee imperialism.

    Finally, time is on our side, not Maduro’s.

    The Venezuelan economy, one of the richest in the hemisphere owing to the world’s largest oil resources, is now in shambles. Some three million people, one in every 10 Venezuelans, have fled the disaster that Maduro and his mentor Hugo Chavez created.

    The currency is sinking to Weimar levels. Oil exports are falling. Shortages of food and medicine are spreading. Power blackouts have been reported. It is difficult to foresee any turnaround the Maduro regime can execute to revive the economy or prevent the continued exodus of its people. Most of the nations of Latin America are with us and against Maduro.

    Venezuela’s situation is not sustainable. Let the fate of the Marxist socialist regime of Nicolás Maduro be decided by the people of Venezuela.
     
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  6. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    Yes, demeaning comments which amount to character attacks should be left out of these forum discussions. I know I've been accussed of espousing a Muslim viewpoint for stating a contrary opinion.
     
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  7. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    What's wrong with regime change? Are you serious? As a fellow Catholic, I hope you are not serious.

    Venezuela is not a "Communist dictatorship" engaging in "genocide." That's a load of Neocon propaganda endlessly repeated on our Fake News Media and by our Neocon-led State Departement. Everything the Neocons accuse Venezuela of being and doing, they themselves are guilty of. Classic case of demonic projection.

    If Venezuela is a "Communist dictatorship" then why is the Venezuelan economy overwhelmingly in private hands? If Maduro was a "dictator", Guaido and his henchmen would already be dead and disposed of. Instead, they are free to engage in violent acts of subversion against this "dictator."

    If the roles were reversed and a Guaido-like character was trying to overthrow the United States Government for perceived grievances, such a character would have already been killed or tortured by the Neocons, who are the real tyrants and primary, overriding cause of the contined suffering in Venezuela.

    When was the last time Maduro invaded another country to steal their resources, or seized the gold and assets of another country? Let me know when Maduro sanctions another country, depriving citizens of food and basic necessities in the process, leading to suffering and death. Let me know when Maduro starts supporting terrorist proxies in a bid to overthrow legitimate heads of state, such as occurred in Libya and Syria. Let me know when Maduro follows in the footsteps of Elliot Abrams, training and supporting death squads in South America that murdered thousands of people. And they say Maduro is the one who must go? No, it is Team Neocon which needs deposed.

    As for Trump's role in this ongoing travesty in Venezuela, you are trying to give him a pass. But I won't. Trump escalated the conflict in Venezuela in stead of defusing it. He said an invasion of Venezuela was "on the table." He hired the chickenhawk, draft-dodging, pro-Zionist/dual-citizen warmonger Bolton who proudly, intentionally displayed a notebook in public showing "5000 troops to Columbia" as a threat to Venezuela. Trump also hired Mr. "Lie, Cheat, Steal" Pompeo and then he hired convicted war criminal Elliot Abrams to manage the entire Venezuelan situation. Trump recognized, blessed and continues to support the Freemason imposter Juan Guaido. Trump got 5 deferments but he seems giddy to go to war and start conflicts with whichever nation his Zionist handlers deem enemies. If Trump doesn't get his act together quick and start acting like the America First President he ran on during the campaign, he is going to be a one-term President because myself and many of us in the Blue Wall States who voted for him will not be making the mistake a second time.
     
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  8. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Juan Guaido, a genuine monster:

     
  9. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    "Come on, lad" is not a patronising comment. It is a colloquial comment where I come from in much the same manner as, "wise up"; or "kop yourself on"; or "come off it". Being English I'm surprised you don't know this.

    Getting back on track, I fail to see how the destabilising of country after country after country is "different"?!
    Particularly when there is a pattern developing.....which sees the flat track bullies repeatedly move from one country to the next.
    And in their unholy process they either destabilize; pillage and/or murder their way to plunder. In few cases are the people of these countries better off! Are the children of Iraq better off? Are the children of Syria better off? Are the children of the (once most affluent country in Africa), Libya, better off?

    When will it stop, sir?

    Children suffer. Families suffer. People are being blown to bits for Gods sake! But many people seem to think that as long as the West installs its preferred leader; then the sufferings of children, of families and of the poor is acceptable. Whilst others still are offended at the merest turn of phrase, "come on, sur!"
     
  10. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    Okay....okay, THIS IS THE SAME PRESS """press""" that told us (LIED TO US!) about Saddam having weapons of mass destruction and told us that old Saddam would blow us all up if we didn't listen to their "wisdom" and nail Saddam sharpish!

    So, obviously, the ""press"" wouldn't lie to us... and we trusting (gullible!!) people of the West went in there and bombed the place to smithereens and killed half of their children and maimed half of the adults and ripped the social fabric of their society to shreds, oh, and pocketed their oil too, if ye dont mind!

    But guess what; SADDAM DIDN'T HAVE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION did he!

    The good old """press"" eh!!

    Venezuela anyone?!
     
  11. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    ...above all other considerations, this is at the very heart of the entire Venezuela affair. This is the one thing that the press-propaganda-machine seems to blur:

    Why don't we just let Venezuela sort things out themselves.
     
  12. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    This picture is all you have and we will probably see it a few hundred times more, some debate tactic that is. It is nonsense.

    I think you are missing the point Richard. Running people over with armored vehicles, preventing them from receiving aid including food, water and necessary medicines should be condemned and obviously breaking into churches with motorcycles and teargas while people are praying needs to be condemned too. These are all the things that the tyrannical regime of Maduro is doing that is why he is being condemned by the bishops in Venezuela.

    Unless, you agree that the cause of the current situation in Venezuela began with Maduro and Chazez, we will never agree on this.

    Anyone, who doesn't understand this is blind to the truth. So far, I have counted about 3 members besides yourself along with Omar who are of this opinion. Wake up people!
     
  13. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Here's the difference between the two. Maduro is a pure communist. Guaido is a pure socialist. Pick your poison. What else we know is the pure communists running Russia, China, Cuba etc... are supporting their man Maduro. The USA could say the same thing with the various characters running for the Democratic party today, all communists or socialists.
     
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  14. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    We're growing in number then...

    As a previous poster stated, what's wrong with Venezuela sorting Venezuela.
     
  15. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    The picture of Freemason Guaido is not nonsense and cannot be ignored.

    The people run over by the armored vehicle were engaged in acts of violence against the authorities. They were not "innocent" bystanders as you are trying to spin it.

    The people starving are starving because of decades of Neocon economic warfare against Venezuela - economic sanctions which are designed to cause maximum damage to Venezuela.

    The bishops should stick to faith and morals. I ignore them when they start playing politics.

    Your attempts to smear me by again linking me to Omar is a losing, fallacious strategy.
     
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  16. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Here is more proof that the crisis in Venezuela has been going on for some time now,

    Venezuela’s President Feuding With Catholic Church
    News: World News | https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/venezuelas-president-feuding-with-catholic-church
    Stefan Farrar • ChurchMilitant.com • February 3, 2017 13 Comments

    CARACAS, Venezuela (ChurchMilitant.com) - Anti-Catholic sentiment from the Venezuelan government is growing.

    At the end of January, supporters of President Nicolás Maduro — an armed gang known as the colectivos — took over San Pedro Claver Church in Caracas during Mass and forced those present to listen to a rant excoriating the Catholic Church.

    Jesús Torrealba, the secretary general of Venezuela's opposition party, condemned the colectivos, who support the socialist government currently in power, and their aggression at the church. Torrealba tweeted, "The violent government supporters closed the door, prevented the parishioners from leaving, and forced them to listen to a political speech. The violent colectivos offended the Venezuelan Episcopal Conference and social leaders in the area in their speech."

    Monsignor Diego Padrón, the head of the Venezuelan Episcopal Conference, commented, "These are not isolated occurrences but rather one gets the impression that these are premeditated events meant to intimidate the Catholic Church." The Catholic Church and President Maduro have been at odds for the past year, and the feud has only intensified in recent months.

    Reportedly, on New Year's this year, priests all over Venezuela were instructed and encouraged to read an anti-Maduro homily sent by the Vatican. The text of the sermon encouraged Venezuelans "to put all their efforts into stopping the advance of the dictatorship and to eradicate it in a democratic way."

    The violent government supporters closed the door, prevented the parishioners from leaving, and forced them to listen to a political speech.Tweet
    The homily also blamed Venezuela's food shortage on "an erroneous economic system, a socialist totalitarianism that gives government a total control of the economy."

    Padrón further remarked that the Church is being singled out because it "has taken a very clear position before the government, noting its difficulties, problems and the crisis the nation is currently in."

    The Catholic Church in Venezuela also came out against Maduro's government for not recognizing the opposition National Assembly in December 2016.

    Archbishop Jorge Urosa Savino in an official statement said, "Failure to respect the Assembly constitutes a real situation of dictatorship for ignoring the popular will expressed in December of 2015 (when) the people indicated mostly not to agree with the current government."
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    On the issue of political prisoners, the Catholic Church leadership stated, "We call for the release of prisoners for acts connected with political activities. Both the judiciary and the government have legal and constitutional instruments to immediately release the majority of those citizens, more than 100, who suffer unjust imprisonment."

    For the past year Venezuela has been undergoing a severe food shortage which according to many critics is due to the socialist policies of the Maduro administration.

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    Ivona Iacob with Forbes Magazine wrote:

    Present-day Venezuela is facing a humanitarian crisis, and Nicolas Maduro, Chavez's hand-picked successor, and his socialist regime is rightly shouldering the blame. The country's emphasis on oil exports, price controls and a heavily-controlled economy are all features found in other current and former socialist countries — features that have contributed to the demise of whole economies or brought them close to it.

    The Catholic Church has opposed and condemned socialism as leading organically to atheism, materialism and irreligion.

    Pope Pius XI proclaimed, "(Socialism) is based nevertheless on a theory of human society peculiar to itself and irreconcilable with true Christianity. Religious socialism (and) Christian socialism are contradictory terms; no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist."

    Pope Pius XII also stated, "To consider the state as something ultimate to which everything else should be subordinated and directed, cannot fail to harm the true and lasting prosperity of nations."
    The nonsense is that you keep posting that photo over and over again, like a child to be quite honest.

    The rest of your argument here is ridiculous.

    Imagine people in our country protesting whether calmly or not were road over by armored vehicles on request of the government.

    I am not trying to smear you, I'm stating facts, something that you are not very familiar with on the subject of Venezuela.

    Please read the above article as to why the people of Venezuela are starving.

    I am offering the rest of my day, no more blogging for me today and a full rosary too for the people of Venezuela and also in the hopes that you will begin to see the truth.
     
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  17. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

  18. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    The following comments are insulting and demeaning. These kind of statements should not be made in a civil debate.


    The nonsense is that you keep posting that photo over and over again, like a child to be quite honest.

    The rest of your argument here is ridiculous.


    Imagine people in our country protesting whether calmly or not were road over by armored vehicles on request of the government.

    I am not trying to smear you, I'm stating facts, something that you are not very familiar with on the subject of Venezuela.

    Please read the above article as to why the people of Venezuela are starving.

    I am offering the rest of my day, no more blogging for me today and a full rosary too for the people of Venezuela and also in the hopes that you will begin to see the truth.[/QUOTE]
     
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  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    That photo may well be photo-shopped
    That fact was brought out prior to the second use of it. It may well be of spurious origin
    And as such, it may well be inadmissible
    Why is that not being pointed out?
     
  20. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

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